Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:57:34 -0400 From: freematt@coil.com (Matthew Gaylor) Subject: More on arresting reporters and Florida case, by Paul McMasters To: freematt@coil.com (Matthew Gaylor)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:23:37 -0400 To: politech@politechbot.com From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> Subject: FC: More on arresting reporters and Florida case, by Paul McMasters Cc: Office@KWTN.com, postmaster@KWTN.com, SSolares@keywestcity.com, Attorney@keywestcity.com, JAvael@kywestcity.com, BDillon@keywestcity.com, JWeekley@keywestcity.com, TomO@oosterbooster.com, merilimccoy@compuserve.com, cpcjr@webtv.net, HBethel@keywestcity.com, JAnthony@keywestcity.com, carmenturn@aol.com, emc@artifact.psychedelic.net Sender: owner-politech@politechbot.com Reply-To: declan@well.com X-URL: Politech is at http://www.politechbot.com/ X-Author: Declan McCullagh is at http://www.mccullagh.org/ X-News-Site: Cluebot is at http://www.cluebot.com/
From: Paul McMasters <Pmcmasters@freedomforum.org> To: "Declan McCullagh (E-mail)" <declan@well.com> Subject: Another journalist arrested Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 08:46:46 -0400
Declan,
People are right to be concerned about the arrest of the Florida journalist for his reporting on problems in the local police department. But this sort of willingness by public officials to arrest reporters first, ask questions later is not all that uncommon. For example, a couple of weeks ago, a small-town reporter in Prince William County, Virginia, was invited onto public property by a public official for an interview about a matter of public concern and then arrested by a county police officer wearing a "relaxed uniform." She now faces a criminal trespass charge carrying punishment of a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
For an account of that incident, see http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=14158.
Paul McMasters
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:17:51 -0700 To: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> From: John Young <jya@pipeline.com> Subject: Re: Police arrest newspaper editor for criticizing Florida cops Cc: Office@KWTN.com, postmaster@KWTN.com, SSolares@keywestcity.com, Attorney@keywestcity.com, JAvael@keywestcity.com, BDillon@keywestcity.com, JWeekley@keywestcity.com, TomO@oosterbooster.com, merilimccoy@compuserve.com, cpcjr@webtv.net, HBethel@keywestcity.com, JAnthony@keywestcity.com, carmenturn@aol.com, emc@artifact.psychedelic.net, cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Declan,
Three Key West The Newspaper articles by Dennis Cooper about the Key West government scandal:
http://cryptome.org/kwtn-bust.htm
John
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 01:50:25 -0700 To: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>, politech@politechbot.com From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net> Subject: Re: Police arrest newspaper editor for criticizing Florida cops Cc: Office@KWTN.com, postmaster@KWTN.com, SSolares@keywestcity.com, Attorney@keywestcity.com, JAvael@keywestcity.com, BDillon@keywestcity.com, JWeekley@keywestcity.com, TomO@oosterbooster.com, merilimccoy@compuserve.com, cpcjr@webtv.net, HBethel@keywestcity.com, JAnthony@keywestcity.com, carmenturn@aol.com, emc@artifact.psychedelic.net, cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
At 10:32 PM -0400 6/26/01, Declan McCullagh wrote: >Police in Key West, Flordia have arrested a newspaper editor for
>printing an article that criticized an internal police
>investigation, according to an Associated Press report. This brutish
>action by police and prosecutors should be widely denounced.
I would denounce it, but the fact is that our denouncements don't matter.
Political prosecutions and trials have become the norm.
Personally, I have been closely involved in two serious criminal trials. In both of these criminal cases, those charged either were found guilty or would have been had they gone to trial (one of them died before the trial). In the case of the guilty person, he received no prison term for perpetrating a very serious crime. Why? Because there was no political interest in his case, so the usual excuse about how "overcrowded our prisons are" was used to let him avoid a prison sentence. When there is no interest in a case, a rap on the knuckles is the worst fate most street criminals ever face. However, if there is political interest, then charges are magnified and hyped and information is leaked to "U.S. News and World Report" about the horrible terrorist who awaits prosecution by the protectors of our freedoms. Even though our jails and prisons are said to be so crowded that violent felons are given bullshit "be a good boy" releases, political trials such as the cases of Parker, Bell, Henson, and others are the focus of cop activities and aggressive prosecutions.
We let murderers, arsonists, and kidnappers go free so that the prisons can be filled with people who write fanciful essays about the "Circle of Eunuchs" and those who criticize local doughnut eaters.
Keith Henson faces much more prison time than does the violent criminal in the case I am involved with. Because Henson is a thought criminal, while the violent criminal is just an ordinary criminal. And in these beknighted states of America, being a though criminal like Bell, Parker, or Henson is far worse than being a rapist, murderer, arsonist, or thief.
Time for another Revolution and for about a hundred thousand dishonest cops and judges to face trial for and be put before firing squads.
--Tim May
-- Timothy C. May tcmay@got.net Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphenomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:07:32 -0700 To: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>, Eric Cordian <emc@artifact.psychedelic.net>, Matthew Gaylor <freematt@coil.com> From: spiker <spiker@ev1.net> Subject: Re: Police arrest newspaper editor for criticizing Florida cops
Here is an organization in Florida that needs to be notified about this Police State tactic.
The Police Complaint Center in Tallahassee, FL http://www.policeabuse.com/
The Police Complaint Center 4244-223 W. Tennessee St. Tallahassee, FL 32304 Ph: 850-894-6819
The Police Complaint Center Complaint Forms (Adobe Acrobat Reader required) http://www.policeabuse.com/pccform.htm
Click below to download the free Adobe Acrobat Reader http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
You also need to contact Alex Jones in Austin, Texas. He is an expert on exposing police misconduct. He may schedule you as a call-in guest on his show.
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Alex Jones Videos http://www.infowars.com/videos.html
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E-mail: alex@infowars.com (Alex Jones)
E-mail the Producer: violet@infowars.com (Violet Nichols)
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Sincerely, David E. Parsons Denver, CO
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:48:18 +0800 Subject: Re: [itlizard] Re: FC: Police arrest newspaper editor for criticizing Florida cops From: John bell <dingdong@highway1.com.au> To: itlizard discussion list <itlizard@list.to>, <declan@well.com>
Declan,
Thanks for your comments.
I agree with your draconian analysis, but the editor obviously knew the law existed and new the risks he was taking.
One wonders why he took the risk and what his agenda is. Why not get a web site not based in Florida to publish instead ?
Here is Western Australia, we are not allowed to refer to investigations by the Official Corruption Commission, est. by the state Govt., to inquire into allegations of civil service personal corruption and corruption of the process.
It seems rather like defenceless and unarmed Australian journalists at Balibo in Timor some years ago, who where were murdured invading Indonesian forces.
The TNI (Indon Armed Forces) were either seeking to avoid international scrutiny of their invasion, or in a country where life is cheap, shooting anyone who got in the way and anyone remotely associated with those resisting their invasion.
The old law of war correspondents when I went to Viet Nam was never to get between the two front lines, as it is hard to debate immoral behaviour when being targeted by riflemen.
What upsets me is that their editors knew the ground rules and appear to have been more interested in a good stories.
Cheers John Bell
From: "R. v. Head" <4whp@home.com> To: <declan@well.com> Subject: Re: Miami Herald reports Florida cops knew law is unconstitutional Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:13:23 -0400
Mister Cooper may not have major newspaper bucks behind him, but he surely has access to a telephone, with which he can contact any of hundreds of lawyers who'll ably and gladly handle the criminal defense for the opportunity to prosecute the 42 USC 1983 action ("depriving any person of his civil rights while acting under color of state law ...)
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